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they said would avoid the fiscal cliff. republicans said the lines of communication are still open but the house will not act until the democratically controlled senate does. >> at the maryland due in baltimore, the african lions were not in their native habitat because it was snowing. the weather was so bad that these do closed -- the zoo closed for the day. the snow did not bother the residents of this lion park pret. >> they are tougher than the ones in maryland. we had a couple of inches of snow this morning. we have had snow to sleep to freezing rain to thunderstorms. you name it, we have had it. we have had an inch and a half the tv station. up to 3 inches in westminster. most of that is compressed because of the rain and sleet. up to 3 inches in some areas. the steadiest precipitation has come to an end. you can see some heavy rain on the eastern shore. around baltimore, that will be the case through the rest of the evening. it will be windy but the steady rain has come to an end. for mayor is trying to push in from the south. 52 in annapolis, 45 downtown. 35 in parkton. in
wants us to go over the fiscal cliff because republicans will get flamed and we will have a different scenario with the lowest rate not being 10%, but 15%, top rate of 35 to 40%, 42. and then tax cuts. david: the responsibility of political purposes is astounding to me. the only contradicting what he said a year ago, but got taken the advice of some of the top economic advisors that will go into recession. >> it is astounding. they also applies going over the fiscal cliff for that very reason. they want top tax rates to go up and are focusing on rates rather than revenue. we would have lower revenue took away some of these deductions. david: if we go into a recession, we will get far less revenue, nothing kills revenue coming into the treasury like a recession. there is no dispute about it. if you want to lose 100, $200 in tax revenue you go into a recession. all the money he thinks he's going to get from rich people by hiking the tax rate will be lost, double lost by going into a recession. >> that is exactly right. that is why when britain raise the tax rate from 40 to 50%, they fou
to avoid the fiscal cliff. he'll also have to put together something that will get republican support in the house. this is a last-ditch effort and will be obviously very difficult if it succeeds at all. at this point, the white house still wants that threshold for income tax rates to be at 250,000. it's unclear, exactly what the senate proposal is going to look like. as we understand from sources, al inna, it could be a couple of days, even though this are reconvening tomorrow, it could be a couple of days before they outline the proposal. we're told by sources they are waiting to get republican support in the senate but to build pressure in the house. if they move the deadline close -- move the timeline from unveiling a proposal as close to the new year as possible it increases pressure on the house and, of course, if the house doesn't take up the bill, you can see that we're already sort of setting the scene for the blame game. democrats would point the finger at republicans for going over the fiscal cliff. >> that's been going on for a while as you well know, brianna, and as the p
america falling over the fiscal cliff? house republicans haven't yet called their members back to washington. our chief political correspondent, john harwood, is with us. john, this feels very much like it might be the calm before the storm in more way than one. >> it could be if we go over the cliff and the storm would be generated by the markets and the loss of confidence in american governance and the american economy, but that's not necessarily going to be the case. we still have a few days left. a white house official told me that there have been no progress over the last couple of days, but an aide to senator harry reid told me there's still a 50/50 chance we get a mini deal that would put off the effects of the cliff at least temporarily and a 50/50 chance of that happening before january 1st. so even though there's a small number of days, sometimes the urgency of a deadline forces lawmakers to overcome differences they can't overcome otherwise. >> remind us, john, a mini deal is composed in the senate but still has to pass through house republicans and boehner or not? >
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the fight that made us sit here today to talk about the quote/unquote fiscal cliff and the republican haves the boehner rule to ask for a dollar in cut for every dollar the limit is extended. the debt limit being money that we have paid and obligation to pay. and so, if democrats and republicans aren't come together now, and a month and a half from now republicans come back to the table and say we need more cuts, i don't know what the president is going to look to to cut. seems like a complicated mess that they have on their hands and the more clarity they get now, the easier it's going to be in a few weeks from now. if they get a small deal that leaves no path forward on the bigger issues i think that we'll be here in a month and a half talking about the same things. >> thank you so much, meredith and david. >> thank you. >> thank you. >>> a huge winter storm packed with snow and sleet out of the midwest and heading towards the eastern seaboard. blizzard warnings from arkansas to illinois. wintry mix is expected in the northeast. it's the same storm system that sparked a tornado outbreak i
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.o.a. in the senate i? way. the republicans are losing the debate on the fiscal cliff. this is obama's economy. let the president and the democrats own it and own the national debt. own the defense cut. instead, boehner and the gang allow the president to star in his own superhero film. he will cut the hawaiian vacation short and come back to save us mere mortal from the fiscal cliff. winning the optics war and winning it big. juan, how did you get the ball back from the republicans? they had it. this was obama's economy, his face calf cliff. now boehner fails on the vote and next thing you know, the ball is in your court. >> juan: i think you are right. i think boehner at the moment looking weaker. he is out of this altogether at the moment. his troops abandoned him. he is okay keeping the speaker on january 3 when the republican caucus vote but you are hearing rumors about eric cantor who is next to him launching some kind of a coop at the moment. i don't know where it goes. but it seems that he is in a position where the republicans in the senate and the white house are really the ones who will
have to work tomorrow, presumably on the fiscal cliff, should the house republicans, the leadership, call that body back into session? >> well, i think speaker boehner will be in on the negotiations, and he will know when something might go through the senate, and he will certainly call the house in time to address this. they are prepared to go back, but right now, the action is in the senate, and i know that we're all trying to come up with and talk to our colleagues about some kind of way to avoid this massive increase in taxes that would occur if we don't act. and the things that are going on beneath the surface, i think, are important in the senate side, and i know the speaker will call them back when it's necessary. >> on a different issue, you're from a border state, you're, obviously, retiring soon. immigration, it's something that your party tried to accomplish under george w. bush, was not able to. as someone who can sort of speak freely about it, what's going to need to happen -- what's going to need to be seen from republicans and democrats for that to move forward in any
the fiscal cliff, which is a sure sign that the senate majority leader, harry reid, a democrat, is working on crafting legislation on his own that he would essentially dare house and senate republicans to oppose. his legislation would likely extend the bush-era tax cuts for households making less than 250,000 a year. it might also include enough short-term spending cuts to temporarily offset for, say, six or eight months, the indiscriminate across-the-board spending cuts that are set to go into effect on january 1. yis bill would also try to tie up some year-end loose ends by extending long-term unemployment benefits, patching the alternative minimum tax that duds up hitting so many middle class families, and preventing a mbg scheduled drop-off in thdicare reimbursement rates for doctors at the start of the enar. eyre in hawaii, the president has had a low-key christmas with family and friends, but he will omoreaving this state as early as tomorrow to head back to grshington d.c. to put pressure on congress to pass that democratic plan. jim? >> any indications, nancy, where thewhether the
to reach a post-christmas fiscal cliff deal? not optimistic at all, not at all with the way the republicans and congress are acting right now, there's no way. from paul hyatt, yes, they will do it but always at the very last minute. paul asks what happened to statesman who work for the good of the people rather than their own agendas and pockets. keep the comments going, find us on twitter and facebook. >>> we all heard today is one of the biggest shopping days of the year, but it's also a day when consumers try to ditch those gifts not on the christmas lists, but it's always not that easy. >> so who has the time to wait in the long line to return something? i'd rather be home eating a christmas cookie. >> if you don't have any kind of a gift receipt, they make a big hassle about giving you store credit. >> despite the hassles, shoppers will return $62.7 billion in merchandise this holiday season. in florida for us this morning, joining to fill us in, how's it looking there, shoppers looking to collect on deals or return their gifts? >> reporter: it's really a combination. at the mall there
, but we are about to go over this fiscal cliff. what do you say? >> of course they blame republicans. that is what people in washington bureau. let's be realistic about this. the president owns the economy at the end of the day, whether he wants to admit it or not. this is his job. i was there in 2003 in the second round of so-called bush tax policies came to the house. the house house wanted $550 billion in cuts. all they could get was $250 billion. it was a compromise. george bush came down and met with our conference and said, you guys thought the good fight, this is what i mean, need, let's go and take what we can get, with a $250 billion and the problem is solved. gerri: i don't see that exactly. [talking over each other] [talking over each other] >> can you imagine? can you imagine lyndon johnson sitting on the sidelines while something like this was going on? gerri: i cannot imagine lyndon johnson going anywhere but washington and sitting there, quite frankly. something that is new out this afternoon, senior administration officials in hawaii, saying that it up the gop. that g
: it depends on how we get there. if we have a fiscal cliff deal, the kind the republicans were pushing through last week, it was really no government spending cuts for two years. additional revenue that would be raised was not very much. that would not cause a recession. however, if we got a deal where the president got $100 billion in additional taxes from upper income people and he got $100 billion in the immediate spending cuts as the republicans would want to match it, subtracting $2 billion it is a little over 1% of gdp. that would push us into a mild recession. unemployment was start to creep up. if we got the bigger than that, $300 billion in spending cuts and tax increases, that we would have a severe recession of the kind from which the economy could not easily recover. host: first call is lydia. caller: i had a question for the doctor morici. over the last four years, everything the president has tried to propose to get the country back to work, jobs he has proposed, the infrastructure and jobs programs, the republicans have a filibuster. they took an oath before he was sworn in to d
on only fiscal cliff will cut gdp growth substantially. you think what effect the government spending 7% plus of our gdp on debt to bases every year for the last four years, you're talking about north of a trillion dollars economic impact. ashley: you say stay away from equities, what in particular? >> long-term treasuries a deflation hedge. the stability and coupons, emerging market coupons for some holdings in newly emerging market equities. keep in mind i am not saying stay completely away from equities. normal risk exposure. ashley: what about gold, do you like the mining stocks as compared to the gold etf? >> i do like the mining stocks trading at 30-year lows and price relative to gold. if you own some equities, it is preferable in the gold sector. ashley: investment officer joining us by phone this afternoon. thank you so much. the closing bell rings fairly soon here, under six minutes time. can you guess which tech companies are up more than 100% this year? known as the google china poised to take on apple with new technology. we will tell you what it is right after the break. [
that republicans were suffering along with the country during the fiscal cliff deal in 2011, that same thing is going to happen if we go over the cliff. republicans don't want to sustain anymore damage to their brand. they've been under water in our nbc/wall street journal poll six straight years and pay a price for that. >> john harwood, thank you for your reporting from washington. >>> after the break, there have been dozens of gun-related deaths since the sandy hook massacre and the nra is still doubling down on its plan to add more guns to schools. >> if it's crazy to call for putting police and armed security in our school to protect our children, then call me crazy. >> that's the wrong debate to have if you want to talk about protecting our children. >> well, this time the nra's remarks could actually be a good thing for more gun regulation. we'll explain why next on "now." [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind
uncertainty about the looming fiscal cliff continues. there has been to communication between republicans and democrats about how to avoid going over the cliff. before the christmas break, speaker john boehner was unable to get enough support from respects to pass his plan and help said it was up to the white house and the senate to avert the cliff. so now harry reid is believed to be crafting a plan of his own. it's expected to extend bush-era tax cuts. it would also include short-term spending cuts instead of the massive cuts that would occur if there is no deal. it would also patch up the alternative minimum tax that will hit even more middle class families and schedule a drop off for doctors. >> if republicans do give in and support the deal being put together by harry reid that deal is expected to be far less favorable than the potential deal they had been working on with president obama. >> republican strategist, frank luntz has been talking with voters, what is the chance you see this becomes the new compromise? >> i'm not sure if hooert side is watching very
today. >>> only six days until the fiscal cliff. president obama is expected to cut short his vacation today and head back to washington to meet with republicans. >>> farmers worry about drought, insects, and disease. right now some say the biggest threat to their livelihood is congress. the fight in d.c. over the fiscal cliff is leaving the future uncertain for one law, and farmers depend on that law. >> reporter: eagle lake, texas, depends on rice. it's been grown here since the 1800s. drought is usually the biggest threat, but the nervous talk in the drugstore now is about congress. >> without the farm bill, it really makes it uncertain for what you should do next year. >> reporter: steve is a pharmacist here and a rice farmer. >> people are nervous. >> very nervous. >> what are they saying when they're coming in? what are you hearing? >> what do we do? they don't know what to do. it's so uncertain right now that the banks don't know what to do, the farmers don't know what to do. they're out there plowing the land, getting it all prepared for next year with total uncertainty. >> rep
cliff is not dealt with. we just learned house republicans convened a conference call with members to say be on 48 hours notice to come back to washington in the next few days to deal with this one way or another. the senate coming back into session tomorrow morning 10:00 a.m. eastern time. the president on this red eye will be flying basically overnight tonight into tomorrow, get there early in the day and maybe convene congressional leaders at some point. interesting that starbucks, the coffee company, is running a row motion in d.c. stores where the they're writing come together on the coffee cup. right now, they're a bit far apart. >> i heard you talk about that 78-degree cold front that swept through the islands. before he headed out, how did the president celebrate christmas? >> yeah, it's been rough. you're right. 78 degrees is probably better than where you are right now, but the bottom line is that hawaii is always beautiful this time and the president started a tradition when he comes out here for christmas, which is to go to the marine base here and thank the troops. tak
the fiscal cliff. why? after january 1st, when everyone's taxes go up, the new congress sworn this on january 3rd could vote to cut taxes. a much easier vote to cast for republicans as well as some democrats. as for the president, is he nhe scheduled to leave his family tonight, come back to washington tomorrow morning, in the hopes of helping his fellow democrats try to find enough republicans to pass his plan. but of course this goes without saying that was a plan that most if not all republicans campaigned very strongly against. >> the most likely scenario is actually did go off the cliff now. ryan liza is our correspondent from washington. you look at this and we're hearing echos of the past. the republican speaker from the house of representatives said, and i have it here somewhere, i don't want to be critical of john, meaning john boehner, but if you don't ever bring something to the floor without the votes. so this is what happened last thursday night where he brought this bill to the floor, his plan b, and it went nowhere. was that a major miscalculation for him? >> it was. look, denn
with the fiscal cliff looming large. >> the fiscal cliff gets closer. congress now has six days left to make a deal. >> aloha, hawaii. >> to my republican colleagues, the ronald reagan model is if you get 80% of what you want, that's a pretty good day. >> they were this close. they were this close to a solution. >> he's going to get tax rate hikes. >> are we going over the cliff? >> i believe we are. >> be republican and be conservative and pass a bill that cuts tax. >> boehner has no control over his extreme right wing faction. >> should anybody's taxes be raised at this point? answer yes or no. >> no. no. ♪ >> we begin as president obama and the senate head back to washington set for one last effort to avert the first fiscal cliff. aloha means good-bye for the president as he packs bound for the white house tonight. the president cutting short his vacation leaving michelle and the girls behind as he gets back to work to try to prevent tax increases and spending cuts due to begin next week. there's just one problem. it appears there would be no house republicans to help hammer out a deal.
and democratses to reach a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. this morning the ceo shulz asked all of his washington, d.c. employees to , come together. >> if you are looking to turn that ugly sweater -- to return that ugly sweater from aunt imagine, today may not be the best -- day. >>> good morning. more signs of recovery in the housing market numbers show home prices climbed in the 12 months through october by the most in more than two years more than 4% gain if you look on the month-to-month increase, san francisco coming in number five, las vegas had the biggest monthly gain. christmas is over, let the returns begin. if you received any gifts you don't want, you might want to wait a few days to return it. today is the worst days to do returns because the lines are longest, store clerks burned out. in the markets, pretty quiet at the moment]ó;o, slight gains for the benchmark averages as well as bloomberg index, a lot of wait and see. as people unwrap new gifts a green citizen says don't forget to recycle old electronics, it expects to see a 30% rise in e-waste between now and february, the big
that the public would blame republicans more -- patti ann: right. >> -- if this whole fiscal cliff disaster happens. patti ann: now how was it spun this way? there's a lot more being negotiated than just those tax rates for wealthy people. what about the fact that we have the $16 trillion debt, and these plans hardly do anything to address it? why is that not the focus? >> yeah, they do almost nothing to address it. even if the president got what he wanted in taxes which is raising taxes on americans who make above $250,000 a year, i think it would be about $850 billion over the next ten years, it wouldn't even be one year's deficit. so there, i mean, there are a lot of other things involved. republicans have demanded real spending cuts, mostly spending cuts in the entitlement programs. and what we've seen in the past few weeks is as that has been discussed among democrats, there's been a hardening of opinion that they really do not want to make any cuts or any trims really in any of the big entitlement programs, medicare, medicaid and social security. patti ann: all right. well, byron york
.c. and save america from the fiscal cliff. how does the president win this optics war, grover? >> well, it's all politics. he's not put a proposal on the table that makes any sense. when talk about plans a, b, and c, the republicans have passed plan a, the ryan bill, ryan budget and plan. that saves $6 trillion over the next decade. it reforms entitlements. it reforms taxes. doesn't raise them, reforms them without raising taxes on people. so that's a plan that's written down that's passed the house of representatives and has strong support among republicans in the senate. the alternative is nothing. >> we know that's not going to pass the senate and we also know the white house isn't going to sign that. move on. my contention is after -- >> allow me. >> work with me. it's an important question. let's say president obama says we're going off the fiscal cliff. we go off the cliff. tax cuts expire, sequestration, they kick it down the road. if president obama then says i'm going to put in tax cuts for anyone making under $250,000 a year. i'm going to call them obama tax cuts. will runs say n
if a fiscal cliff is not reached before the deadline, kyle la campbell, washington d.c. newsroom. >>> and in general delegations are not as crowded as the first ones. as many as 800,000 are expected to be there for the president's 21st inauguration and that's less than those who flooded the area in 2009. >>> it should be much better and governor brown wants to overhaul the state's funding system. he hopes to give them fair control of how the school operates their money in minority districts. he is expected to outline proposals in his january budget. >>> john mcafee is expected to be spending time in great britain. he posted a blog saying he is safe in the country where he grew up. he is safe in england and has been hiding from authorities in belize where he was wanted for questioning in the suspicious death of a neighbor. >>> crews are looking into a suspicious water-main break in fairfax yesterday afternoon. crews shut off traffic in the area and still no word on what caused that break. >>> the bay area is starting to see more economic growth in the text sector. it is the fastes
of the strategies that republicans could very well allow us to go off the fiscal cliff. a few weeks into january they decide to take the vote on lowering taxes. lowering the race so they can say you know what, we voted to lower taxes. >> that's something that has been talked about. a lot of people were concerned they wanted to go over the fiscal cliff. they wouldn't have to go for a tax increase. then however it becomes no longer extending the bush tax cuts, but the obama tax cuts. president obama is associated with cutting taxes. there is political liability for them as well. the reality is they have to get off of this no tax increase nonsense. i read in the "new york times" the other day, no republican member of congress voted for it since 1990. do you believe that? we had two or three wars since that time? a tragedy at 9/11 and we had hurricane sandy. we had hurricane katrina and despite all of these, they are unwilling to raise them to support and fund our government. what does it say about the dysfunctionality? >> we will have to leave it there. happy holidays to you. joining me now on the
force a compmise, but it hasn't. >> washington remains on square one in the fiscal cliff talks. >> reporter: congress reached this brink before christmas when speaker john boehner failed to get enough house republicans to support his solution, threw up his hands and said it's up to leader reid and the president. >> how we get there, god only knows. >> reporter: aides say reid's plan would avoid tax increases for people making less than $250,000, eliminate spending cuts and restore unemployment benefits. >> what needs to happen now is for a sense of desperation among lawmakers to kick in and realize that if we go past january 1st with no deal, the markets are likely to decline in a significant way and alarm most americans. they don't want to have themselves blamed for that. >> reporter: meanwhile, public pressure is mounting. countdown clocks are springing up, and today starbucks asked employees to begin writing "come together" on coffee cups. now, speaker boehner has not yet called the house back into session. meanwhile, treasury secretary tim geithner told congressional leade
republican support for any bill that might pass congress to avert the fiscal cliff. >> brianna keilar reporting live from hawaii this morning. >>> checking our top stories before heading back to d.c. to try to head off the physical -- the fiscal cliff. you know what i'm saying. the president and first lady michelle obama visited marines and thanked them for their service. >> the greatest honor i have as president is being commander in chief and the reason it's an honor is because not only do we have the finest military in the world but we also have the finest fighting men and women in the world. >> mrs. obama and the girls won't cut short their vacation. they're staying on in hawaii. >>> former braves great andruw jones free on a bond in atlanta on a battery charge. there was a domestic dispute between he and his wife. the center fielder played with the new york yankees last year and recently signed with a team in japan. >>> the city of los angeles is holding its annual gun buyback today, several months ahead of schedule. the buyback program allows anyone to bring in guns and rifles i
in control of the house. we are focused on the fiscal cliff and whatever is going to happen with that. logistically, the time of the year. we are talking about months before there is going to be legislation that could be put on the table. what do you think could pully realistically have a chance of passing? >> i'm skeptical like you ever. i hope it plugs the loophole that they get through at the various gun shows. i hope there can be something on magazine clips. the thing i would most like to see is an attempt to do a buy back program back in 1996. if we did that and invested real money, you could -- if we overpaid for the guns we want to get off the street, that's the big problem. anything we do now at the margin will not reduce the stock. that's part of the problem. why not make it a stimulus at the same time we get guns back and reduce the inventory and the chance we will have these beings and firearms. >> it's a clever idea and a clever way to sell it. the basic point there about what a gun buy back program would do, the experience we had with the assault weapons ban is we banned
,000. that's overnight. the bush tax cuts sunset if we don't do anything to variety the fiscal cliff. this is something that the president and republicans agree on. they agree 98% of the americans shouldn't have taxes raised, but that 2% disagreement brings us to the edge of the fiscal cliff. >> the ceo of starbucks says, hey, you know what? let's write on our coffee cups "come together." do you think anybody will pay attention to that in washdz? >> you know what? anything and everything helps. just merely spreading the message america is watching and waiting for congress to act to find a way to reason together, that's an important act, and everyone doing their part can do, i say good on him. we need to send this message to washington and make sure it isn't settled. we'll go deeper into this tonight at 7:00 as well. this is urnlggent. the clock is ticking, suzanne. >>> many american families have adopted children from russia, but that might actually be ending thanks tie controversial bill passed in russia parliament. because your daughty wants that pink castle thing. and you really d
a deal on the fiscal cliff. however, chief white house correspondent ed henry tells us that washington may have to set with a backup plan to the backup plan. >> christmas tradition for president obama. he and first lady michelle obama saying thanks at the marine corps base hawaii. >> so many of you make sacrifices day in and day out on behalf of the freedom and behalf of the security. >> now the president is giving up some vacation time rushing back to washington aboard air force one late tonight to deal with the looming fiscal cliff. after that red eye, the president will no doubt need coffee. starbucks decided to get political in the washington, d.c., shops, by having employees write come together on cups. ceo howard schultz writing in open letter, "my hope is the simple message will serve as holiday reminder from starbuck of the spirit that bridgeed differences and we have the power to come together and make a difference in every season of the year." the president and speaker john boehner have not spoken in nearly a week. when the house republicans convene conference call today, all
the fiscal cliff and sometime in the first week and a half, that's the political theater where the republicans can then cut taxes instead of raising taxes on anyone. and all will be well. i do think, however, the one thing that i'm worried about is the markets are okay with that, and they -- in our business we say buy the room or sell the facts. they price in this good outcome that happens the first week of january. then there's no reason left to buy. we priced that in and go lower. i did establish shorts on christmas eve. >> jim, good morning, it's seema. how you doing? >> good. >> good. you know, in terms of where we are at, in terms of fiscal cliff negotiations, how would you advise investors to invest in the short term? if you're watching the political rhetoric out of washington, how would you tell people at home to really invest? >> i think there's things that were beaten down hard for tax purposes in anticipation of raising a capital gains tax. it's a bad time to move into apple. things like intel. something that the market beat up all year, you know, in the name of it be
to avert the fiscal cliff. with prospects still murky for a deal before year's end, what can government workers, wall street investors and taxpayers expect if lawmakers miss the deadline? for that, we turn to stacy palmer, editor of the chronicle of philanthropy. jackie simon, public policy director of the american federation of government employees. and hugh johnson, who runs an investment and advisory firm in albany, new york. you all represent different constituencies. i want to start with you, jackie. -- sorry, i want to start with you, stacy, and talk about philanthropy. this is the end of the year when people are making their decisions about whether they're going to get tax breaks or who they're going to give to. are people looking at the fiscal cliff and saying "i don't know"? >> absolutely. people are uncertain as to whether there's going to be a charitable deduction next year, things like the estate tax will change. so it's a rocky time. so some people are giving more and deciding "i'm going to get the tax break now and do it while it's a good thing for sure" and some people ar
is not favorable to republicans at this moment about the fiscal cliff and the markets out there again could be very, very harsh if there is no deal. so i don't know about christmas cheer but i think there are certain political realities that say there's got to be something done, even if it's a temporary patch that allows them to say we're going to have the big vote in terms of the cuts and tax hikes and reform, you know, in a few weeks. but they have got to do something in the short term or they're going to be dire consequences. i don't think that is any hyperbole, kelly, it is just the truth. kelly: just the truth. bottom line so i let you go, what is your next guess, deal or no deal? >> i think they get some kind of deal. it may pass the january 1st, december 31st deadline to get the house vote but i think you will see something done. kelly: maybe a pared down version but something will get done. kelly, have a happy holiday. >> you too, juan. jamie: the taliban is claiming responsibility for a homicide car bombing in khost. it is at the very same base where seven cia employees were killed three y
points or so. being up at all with the fiscal cliff really looking like we're -- why wouldn't we head over. you go back to 39.6 on anybody 250 and above and ride in and lower taxes and be a hero. see republicans vote against that. >>> pre-christmas shopping rush wasn't much of a rush at all, at least not the type economists were expecting. a mastercard spending poll reports holiday sales were up .7 of a percent a year ago well below expectations. and we'll get a fresh read also on home prices when the monthly ca case-shiller report comes out at 9:00 eastern and congress thinks it will show 3.7% in prices for october from a year earlier, continued improvement. and netflix customers were hit by a partial holiday outage, some unable to access the service from clrm eve through thursday morning. they should have been spending time with the family around the hearth. >> a lot of people do it around the tv. >> unable to download any "walking dead" episodes during the holiday. netflix says the source of the problem was a server operated by amazon web services unit. ready to blame them. >> alwa
and counting before we fall off the so-called fiscal cliff and while there's no deal, more news out of washington and our very own john harwood is there. >> reporter: mandy, we've got a letter from the republican leadership to the president and to the democrats in the senate saying that the house has acted, they passed legislation last year to extend all the tax cuts and to shift the scheduled sequester cuts from defense to domestic programs, but, of course, in urging the senate to act saying, well, we've acted, now it's your turn, we're simply not going to see the democrats take them up on that because president obama since that letter has won the election and now we're looking at the possibility of a mini deal that would get enacted before january 1st but so far all we've heard are the sounds of silence in the negotiations. a senior white house official told me today when i asked was there any holiday season progress, back channel progress over the past couple of days, got a one-word reply, no. second, the democratic senate leadership says there's a 50/50 chance that we'd get a de
the fiscal cliff. >> six days away. dana, what would majority leader reid have to add to the legislation to peel off just a few republicans, enough to get it through the house? i don't know if he would get widespread support from mitch mcconnell and the leadership, but just a few who are maybe retiring, or leaving the senate. >> reporter: that's a great question. first and foremost they would have to be able to swallow the idea that they will effectively vote to raise taxes on the top 2% of americans which most republicans said they do not want to do because they think it is bad for the economy. to answer your question, it is probably the biggest sweetener for republicans and seen some moderate democrats by the way is the estate tax. the estate tax is in place right now at a relatively low threshold. it would go up big time at the end of the year. and that is something that is very important to a lot of republicans. that could be a sweetener. i think probably the best argument the democrats have for some of those republicans is that they don't want to be in the way or they don't want to
are quietly saying that they think it's better to go over the fiscal cliff rather than go ahead and delay the tax increases and more importantly the spending cuts. the other thing you get out of that is if you allow the tax increases to go into effect a lot of those republicans think they have a better shot at tax reform next year when you instantly have a broader tax base. the numbers are sort of come complex. when the bush tax cuts went into effect fewer people had an income tax liability. this is what mitt romney was talking about last year with the 47%. if the tax rates increase you all of a sudden have more people paying income taxes and you just have a broader, higher rate to play with. next year when they come back they can get rid of some of the duck -ts and what not and lower the rates and overall have a lot more money in the system to play with, a lot more options. they think they are better shape for tax reform if they come back next year with the rates having gone up. >> reporter: and by not allowing the president to just add nah see um raise the debt level, they have leverage
. david: here it is. the highlight reel. we believe the president does want to go over the fiscal cliff. >> boehner will be in the situation, do i get democratic votes. >> this is about the little guy on the street said that the republican people are losing. the american people are losing even more. david: are we going to go into a recession if we go off the cliff? you think we will be back i am not so sure about it. if you will cut spending, that is the issue. would we go into recession if we go over the cliff and they do not restore the spending cuts?
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